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The Next Conversation: Argue Less, Talk More. The Sunday Times bestseller, as heard on the Diary of a CEO podcast Paperback

  • Writen by Jefferson Fisher
  • Publisher Penguin Books
  • ISBN 9780241719886
  • Publication Date 2025

Trial lawyer Jefferson Fisher has gained millions of followers through short, simple, practical videos teaching people how to argue less and talk more.

And now he offers a tried-and-true framework that will show you how to transform your life and your relationships. His down-to-earth teachings and actionable strategies have helped countless people navigate life’s toughest situations. You will learn:

  • Why you should never “win” an argument
  • How to set boundaries and frame conversations
  • Why saying less is often more
  • How to overcome conflict with connection


Everything you want to say, and how you want to say it, can be found in The Next Conversation.

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''Embracing the knowledge in The Next Conversation will vastly improve your life.'' Andrew Huberman, PhD, professor, Department of Neurobiology at Stanford University School of Medicine and creator of the Huberman Lab Podcast

''Knowing exactly what to say when the pressure runs high is where we get stuck. No one is better than Jefferson Fisher to show you how to start'' Mel Robbins, bestselling author and host of The Mel Robbins Podcast

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